Quoting Louis Farrakhan:"A good Muslim is a Christian, and a good Christian is a Muslim...Even though I am a Muslim — I don’t apologize for that — I’m also a Christian"Sorry, Louis, but that is an outright lie and heresy. To quote the Religion News Blog,
Christianity and Islam are incompatible. Islam rejects the central teachings of the Christian faith. Therefore, anyone who claims to be both a Muslim and a Christian is either ignorant or a liar.Farrakhan is not ignorant, he is a liar in this case. He is pandering, playing damage control and attempting to present Islam as compatible with Christianity, thereby alleviating fear by the ignorant and weakening further the already weak of faith. It is just another ploy of the enemy.
A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ as presented in the Bible. Islam specifically rejects Jesus as presented in the Bible.
Enjoy your eternal damnation, Louis.
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He is not pandering or changing what his preaching. This has always been a central theme from the Nation of Islam and Farrakhan for over 40 years.
The following is a quote from a "Parliament of the World's Religions" conference back in 1993:
"The Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught us that we don’t judge the commonness of religion by names. We judge the commonness of religion by examining the principles that under gird every spiritual community, and if we can put the names of our faith on the side for a moment and look at principles, we will find a common thread running through all religious expressions.
"I am a Muslim. What does that mean? One who submits to do the will of God, that is my belief and my practice, but I feel that I am also Christian. What? To be a Christian is to be crystallized into Oneness with God, following the example of Jesus Christ; to be a Muslim means to be one with God, following the example of Prophet Muhammad. But I am also a Hebrew. What? To be a Hebrew, that word means one who has crossed over from darkness into light, from weakness into strength, from unrighteousness to righteousness. I cannot be a Muslim unless I believe in Abraham, then Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets of Israel, and believe in the scriptures that they taught.
"But my Brother who is a Buddhist today, describes Buddha as meaning an enlightened one. Well, I think I am a Buddhist. Not that I have attained to enlightenment, but I am on a path that seeks enlightenment, aren’t you? So if you look at those of us whose faiths are named after enlightened ones, Buddha, Tao, Zorasterism, Shinto, these faiths are named for the founder or teacher, good. Each one of these teachers taught principles that we all practice. We may practice the principles differently, but we all practice, number one, prayer. There is no religious community that does not pray. Your manner of prayer may be different from mine, but prayer is the number one principle of practice in every religious community, and this is what shows you that Buddha and Muhammad and Jesus and Moses and Zoraster, all of these came from one source. What is the next principle?
"There is not one religion that does not preach charity and love of the brotherhood. If I make a mistake, tell me. Your religion teaches that and there is no religion represented in this community that preaches that we should not love one another and love righteousness; is that right?
Third, every religion preaches not only love and charity and the giving of alms and the giving of oneself to the building of righteousness, but every religion teaches something about fasting as a principle. And every religion teaches that we should struggle against the forces of evil within ourselves and the force of evil against ourselves. And every religion may not call it Hajj or pilgrimage, but every religion talks about a meeting of devotees with the one whom he or she has devoted his or her life to; and that journey from where we are to a meeting with the divine beings spoken of in all religious scripture is in Islam called Hajj or pilgrimage.
"So now, since all of these enlightened ones taught all of us such good principles, how did we get so messed up? How did the world get so destroyed with so many enlightened ones who taught in different parts of the earth and every one of our races, every one of our communities have had an enlightened one to teach us? Where then is the enlightenment? The world is sunk into darkness today to such a degree that it looks as though Jesus never walked among us; Moses never walked among us; Muhammad never walked among us; Buddha and Confucius and no holy man ever walked among us, when you look at the condition of the people of the world; and the condition of the people of the world is a witness against religions, as religion is being taught and practiced."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_3231.shtml
I did not say that he has changed what he is preaching. I AM, however, saying that his statement is a flat out lie and that the teaching is incompatible with Christianity. You can not be a Muslim and a follower of Christ at the same time. They are mutually exclusive.
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." Either that is a true statement or it is not. If it is true, then Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam is wrong in teaching Islam. If it is false, then Farrakhan is wrong for teaching the validity of Christianity and is a false prophet and teacher for claiming so.
To follow the example of Jesus is to be exclusive by definition. To attempt to redefine the teachings of Jesus or Christianity as well as that of Islam is to be dishonest.
Allah is not just another name for God, by the way.
The quotes you left here display an incredible amount of either ignorance or purposeful deception by Farrakhan.
Well, I am one of those folks who do not believe that the religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc.) are what responsible to the insanity that is carried out in their names, ie; slavery, racism, terrorism, sexism and so many other ISMs.
To quote Farrakhan again, "There is not one religion that does not preach charity and love of the brotherhood. If I make a mistake, tell me. Your religion teaches that and there is no religion represented in this community that preaches that we should not love one another and love righteousness; is that right?"
This is 100% correct. The narrow-minded ways that so-called "religious folks" practice their self-made rituals and the corruption of common religious principles is what is contradictory, not the righteous principles where fellow human being can find commonality.
Unfortunately there are many in all the major religious who take the position of fighting tooth and nail against any common understanding and shared principles.
The reality is that ALL organized religions have been hijacked and are currently maintained by Satan. So-caled Christianity, Islam and Judaism!
You can quote Farrakhan all you want. That does not make him correct. You quoted twice, "There is not one religion that does not preach charity and love of the brotherhood." The problem is that even if Islam DID preach charity and love of the brotherhood, they do NOT preach it towards the "infidel", which is what they consider everyone not a member of their ilk.
Self made rituals would be just that...SELF made. As a body, there are some rituals that are created by man, but not necessarily bad nor created by self.
Because one can find a few things in common does not mean equality. Your quote of "righteous principles where fellow human being can find commonality" is a secular viewpoint and world view that is incompatible with the very origin of righteousness.
A rollerskate and an 18 wheeler truck have a few things in common. They both have a chassis, some wheels, and can be used as transportation. Does that make them equal? No way.
The same can be said of all religions in comparison to one another. Only one religion claims redemption for sin, a sure salvation, a sacrifice for sin that still lives, and made the claim to actually be God incarnate. It isn't Islam. The righteousness from the sacrifice of Christ is available to all, unlike any other religion.
You said, "Unfortunately there are many in all the major religious who take the position of fighting tooth and nail against any common understanding and shared principles." That is NOT necessarily a bad or unfortunate thing. It is not small minded, though it may be narrow. Being open minded is not necessarily a virtue. Faith, however, is.
You claim "The reality is that ALL organized religions have been hijacked and are currently maintained by Satan." That is a broad statement that is not, as you say, "100% correct". Though I agree partially, even mostly, there is always a degree of truth and the authentic. Wherever there is a counterfeit, there is the legitimate somewhere.
Since you are obviously not Christian, I don't expect you to understand and to have a different world view. Righteousness is defined in Christianity. It draws strong differences much more than similarities, as you claim, and offers a measuring stick to define exclusivity. The definitions of righteousness in Christianity specifically excludes Farrakhan at present, and apparently yourself. This, however, can be easily rectified if you know the one upon whom the faith is built.
You wrote, "The problem is that even if Islam DID preach charity and love of the brotherhood, they do NOT preach it towards the "infidel", which is what they consider everyone not a member of their ilk."
Organized or should I say mainstream Christianity is no less corrupt as has been mainstream Islam and Judaism.
If you doubt it with respect to Christianity, just consider for a moment the millions of murdered Native Americans as they were exterminated for being barberous infedels by the "White man's Christianity" or the millions of Blacks enslaved by "good Christian" puritans?
For the record, I am a follower of Jesus Christ--a Christian but just not the kind of Christian that belongs to the corrupt pagan dominated mainstream religion organized and accepted during the time of the rule of the Roman Emperor Constantine.
Are you at all familiar with the Nicene Creed from 325 to 379 A.D., when the Christian church's leaders met in Rome to decide what the beliefs would be.. or better yet how they were going to "modify" the true teachings of Jesus and the Biblical prophets to be compatible with their corrupt rule?
The world is sunk into darkness today to such a degree that it looks as though Jesus never walked among us; Moses never walked among us; Muhammad never walked among us; Buddha and Confucius and no holy man ever walked among us, when you look at the condition of the people of the world; and the condition of the people of the world is a witness against religions, as religion is being taught and practiced.
Since you are beginning to bore me a bit, I will answer these points, but I can tell you that not much more will come of the conversation unless its direction changes.
>>>Organized or should I say mainstream Christianity is no less corrupt as has been mainstream Islam and Judaism.<<<
Considering that the very inception of Islam was corrupt, it can not be anything other than its genesis. Mainstream Christianity, as you put it, has its issues. I have been preaching and teaching about them for years. If you have read anything that I have written on the topic over the years, seen the email and fellowship groups I have been a part of, you would know that I am no fan of the institutional church. None the less, it is a far cry from Islam, has little in common, and is still teaching the way of salvation. In that much, they are not apostate...yet.
>>>If you doubt it with respect to Christianity, just consider for a moment the millions of murdered Native Americans as they were exterminated for being barberous infedels by the "White man's Christianity" or the millions of Blacks enslaved by "good Christian" puritans?<<<
For the record, I do believe that slavery was reprehensible. HOWEVER, there is Biblical and historical precedent for both it and for submission to it. Again, I am not being an apologist for it, but there is a line of reasoning.
To blame Christianity for what a secular government does, as in the case of so called "native Americans" is fraudulent on its premise. However, if you want to go along that path, then I guess that God was wrong for having the Caananites expelled, too. Joshua was a murderous fool rather than the leader of God's people, according to your analogy. See, I can play that same game, too.
>>>I am a follower of Jesus Christ--a Christian but just not the kind of Christian that belongs to the corrupt pagan dominated mainstream religion organized and accepted during the time of the rule of the Roman Emperor Constantine.<<<
Well, that makes two of us. However, modern Christianity is far less pagan than most skeptics claim and is more so than most adherents claim. Selah.
>>>Are you at all familiar with the Nicene Creed from 325 to 379 A.D<<<
Yes, I am. And I know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, too.
>>>or better yet how they were going to "modify" the true teachings of Jesus and the Biblical prophets to be compatible with their corrupt rule?<<<
A friend of mine has an article that you may like, which has also been published in expanded form in a book, "The Great Eccelesiastical Conspiracy".
>>>The world is sunk into darkness today to such a degree that it looks as though Jesus never walked among us<<<
The WORLD, yes. He is still amongst His people, if you know enough to look.
>>>Buddha and Confucius and no holy man ever walked among us<<<
As if ANYONE with a Christian world view would even care if Buddha or Confucius walked the earth or not, except that they were lost souls. I don't for a moment believe that the world is a better place because of their false teachings. They were false prophets hocking a false religious belief, which led to further decay.
>>>the condition of the people of the world is a witness against religions, as religion is being taught and practiced<<<
Again, a wide brush being employed. First, if you are indeed a Christian of the remnant sort you claim, then you must acknowledge that there is no other name given under heaven whereby you must be saved. N'est ce pas?
Second, if the Spirit of the Lord still exists on this earth, he is continuing His job of convicting of sin, of judgment, and righteousness. Is that not agreeable? If he changes not, it is the case.
Thirdly, if He is doing His job, then there are His people still on the earth. There are those who are His sheep and hear His voice. Ergo, there is religion undefiled being practiced by some...nay, many. I personally know of many who have come out from among the institutional paradigm and found the liberty created for them. I feel sorry for you if you have not had the pleasure of meeting them.
Now that I have answered to my satisfaction your last comment, like I said, the conversation isn't going much further than this if you want to debate Constantine, creeds, make broad generalizations, and be rather inclusive by equating different religions to Christianity.
You also are not going to get very far with me by using a blogger ID of two letters, no info on your profile, and nothing for content on your blog...zero. I don't debate the contentious who hide behind anonymity.
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